pdakwala
05-01 03:31 PM
Hi Folks,
I want someone who is living in CA and trying to get H1B visa after he or she got his or her BS/MS degree. We were contacted by PBS and were told that they need someone who can come forward and talk to them about the problems that they are facing to get H1B visa.
Please contact me at 408 204 2200 or sent me an email pdakwala@yahoo.com ASAP.
Cheers
Pratik
I want someone who is living in CA and trying to get H1B visa after he or she got his or her BS/MS degree. We were contacted by PBS and were told that they need someone who can come forward and talk to them about the problems that they are facing to get H1B visa.
Please contact me at 408 204 2200 or sent me an email pdakwala@yahoo.com ASAP.
Cheers
Pratik
wallpaper rory-mcilroy-gerry-mcilroy-US-
reedandbamboo
09-13 01:29 AM
I incorporated the points you made and the revisions are in fuchsia. Also make sure to change the designation as you make your way down the list of recipients (listed on page 6 of this thread):
The Ombudsman
USCIS
September 10. 2008
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration “services” provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???
We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS – a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us – “Case adjudication is based on receipt date” “No, we process applications based on notice date”, “Actually, it’s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.” !!!
Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their “service” centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America’s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
3) Lack of USCIS customer service – once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one can nominally check one’s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
Another inconsistency, surfacing in August 2008, begs redressal – while I-485 applicants (albeit those from 2006 instead instead of earlier years) at the TSC were being approved in a steady stream, the NSC was almost completely inactive resulting in only a very few cases being approved prior to August 20th. After this date, the NSC appeared to completely hold off on all I-485 approvals while approvals continued at the TSC. Could somebody please account for this preferential treatment for I-485 applicants at the TSC versus those at the NSC? Furthermore, when complaint faxes were sent in to the NSC in protest, instead of issuing a formal statement to explain their approach, the NSC retaliated by issuing a bunch of RFEs. Is the USCIS trying to intimidate us so that we remain quiescent??
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled – we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of an extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.
We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future. Kindly note that there remain roughly 15 days until the October 2008 visa bulletin goes into affect. Once October arrives, the dates for Indian EB2 candidates retrogress to 2003. We believe you have the power to help a few more of us who have been waiting, seemingly endlessly, to get out of this immigration limbo.
Thanking you,
The Ombudsman
USCIS
September 10. 2008
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration “services” provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???
We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS – a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us – “Case adjudication is based on receipt date” “No, we process applications based on notice date”, “Actually, it’s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.” !!!
Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their “service” centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America’s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
3) Lack of USCIS customer service – once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one can nominally check one’s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
Another inconsistency, surfacing in August 2008, begs redressal – while I-485 applicants (albeit those from 2006 instead instead of earlier years) at the TSC were being approved in a steady stream, the NSC was almost completely inactive resulting in only a very few cases being approved prior to August 20th. After this date, the NSC appeared to completely hold off on all I-485 approvals while approvals continued at the TSC. Could somebody please account for this preferential treatment for I-485 applicants at the TSC versus those at the NSC? Furthermore, when complaint faxes were sent in to the NSC in protest, instead of issuing a formal statement to explain their approach, the NSC retaliated by issuing a bunch of RFEs. Is the USCIS trying to intimidate us so that we remain quiescent??
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled – we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of an extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.
We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future. Kindly note that there remain roughly 15 days until the October 2008 visa bulletin goes into affect. Once October arrives, the dates for Indian EB2 candidates retrogress to 2003. We believe you have the power to help a few more of us who have been waiting, seemingly endlessly, to get out of this immigration limbo.
Thanking you,
thefar
01-18 04:34 PM
This is an very very good forum that has helped to answer many of my questions, or clear myths if I might say so... Thanks to everyone who have been posting.
I had one question which I hope someone could help me with. I have a full-time job offer in a very reputed company and am in the same boat as many before me with graduation towards May end (cannot get a degree completion letter before that) and no hopes of the quota for 2009 (Master's) lasting till then. My employer can also apply for the H1 based on my undergrad because my job profile is such. I wanted to know what are the pros and cons (specifically cons) of doing so for the future legal paper-work. I know for one that I might get into the lottery scenario if the similar situation like last year happens. However, I cannot avoid that. I specifically wanted to know what could happen if I do have to change jobs in the next 3 years (and the new employer has specifically hired me based on my Master's degree). In addition, if I have the company start my GC paperwork after 1 year and I need to renew my H1 after 3 years based on my Master's degree, would I need to restart the GC process?
Any other disadvantages of applying for the undergrad quota (for a Master's student) would be welcome.
Thanks.
I had one question which I hope someone could help me with. I have a full-time job offer in a very reputed company and am in the same boat as many before me with graduation towards May end (cannot get a degree completion letter before that) and no hopes of the quota for 2009 (Master's) lasting till then. My employer can also apply for the H1 based on my undergrad because my job profile is such. I wanted to know what are the pros and cons (specifically cons) of doing so for the future legal paper-work. I know for one that I might get into the lottery scenario if the similar situation like last year happens. However, I cannot avoid that. I specifically wanted to know what could happen if I do have to change jobs in the next 3 years (and the new employer has specifically hired me based on my Master's degree). In addition, if I have the company start my GC paperwork after 1 year and I need to renew my H1 after 3 years based on my Master's degree, would I need to restart the GC process?
Any other disadvantages of applying for the undergrad quota (for a Master's student) would be welcome.
Thanks.
2011 rory mcilroy us open
unitednations
02-04 12:58 PM
In my opinion by 'Using the unused EB2 visa for EB3 ROW instead of EB2 India', USCIS is following the law as congress pased it...The law may be not fair but that is a different issue...If you want to change the law you have to get that done from the congress...suing USCIS would get you nowhere....
People seem to think uscis/dos is doing it wrong and it should be going horizontal rather then vertical. However, since people just keep getting mad at it because they think dos is doing it wrong but are not willing to do something about it.
The main thing ac21 did differently then before enactment of ac21 was that it allowed unused visas from ROW to be used by other countries on a quarterly basis and not in the final quarter.
One of the frustrations is that dos/uscis was very lazy in approving cases and allowing 485 filings and weren't watching because they allowed too manyh people to file (as soon as there are more applicatoins then visa numbers they are supposed to establish cut off dates). They had more applications then what they can approve long before they actually established cut off dates (January 2005). However, people got spoiled. Now they are going back and being very careful about it. This situation should have presented itself much before it actually did.
People seem to think uscis/dos is doing it wrong and it should be going horizontal rather then vertical. However, since people just keep getting mad at it because they think dos is doing it wrong but are not willing to do something about it.
The main thing ac21 did differently then before enactment of ac21 was that it allowed unused visas from ROW to be used by other countries on a quarterly basis and not in the final quarter.
One of the frustrations is that dos/uscis was very lazy in approving cases and allowing 485 filings and weren't watching because they allowed too manyh people to file (as soon as there are more applicatoins then visa numbers they are supposed to establish cut off dates). They had more applications then what they can approve long before they actually established cut off dates (January 2005). However, people got spoiled. Now they are going back and being very careful about it. This situation should have presented itself much before it actually did.
more...
pritesh80
04-16 09:33 AM
any news on the current count for Masters students?
AirWaterandGC
07-17 07:36 PM
Thanks you CORE Team. We are proud of you.
Thank you Zoe Lofgren. Will call her today to thank her.
Thank you Zoe Lofgren. Will call her today to thank her.
more...
ilikekilo
04-13 08:27 PM
This is the sad reality. A lot of people applied using sub labor during the June and July fiasco. A lot of people made it through the July 15th deadline by atleast filing a 140 through sub labor.
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
RIght, bygones are bygones, we have to move on...no point in sulking about it..:)...cant change it now..move ahead..thats all...;)
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
RIght, bygones are bygones, we have to move on...no point in sulking about it..:)...cant change it now..move ahead..thats all...;)
2010 Rory McIlroy eagles to go 10
ItIsNotFunny
03-06 02:22 PM
Hello, Pls. move upto 50 aswell.
Thanks.
Thanks.
more...
WaitingForMyGC
02-25 01:36 PM
Is IV only for those who have filed I485?
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
In protest, give red dot to all the posters on this thread except original poster. He deserves green. If it makes you happy, you can have all my green dots. I only care about green card. :-)
Chill brother.
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
In protest, give red dot to all the posters on this thread except original poster. He deserves green. If it makes you happy, you can have all my green dots. I only care about green card. :-)
Chill brother.
hair New US Open champion Rory
snddlth
08-13 10:23 PM
Can anyone provide me pointers to discussions on INFOPASS appointment? I've taken an appointment today and I would like to know your experience.
more...
coolmanasip
08-25 02:47 PM
Well atleast you know, you are hours or days away from approval.....
some interrview ride.....
good luck man....
some interrview ride.....
good luck man....
hot rory-mcilroy-US-OPEN-2011.jpg
map_boiler
07-25 11:08 AM
The problem is not that the name is mentioned incorrectly, just that it is not in "first name/given name" and "last name/surname" format.
All you need to do is:
1) Write a cover letter to the Indian consulate that has jurisdiction on your case based on state of residence, requesting an "Observation" in your passport clarifying your "first name" as --- and your "last name" as ---
2) Fill up a miscellaneous services form (available on consulate website). Attach 1 passport photo. Under "PLEASE ISSUE", check "Others" and write "Observation in passport to clarify 'first name', 'last name'"
3) Include a bank cashier's check of $10.00 payable to "Consulate General of India"
4) Include a self addressed and pre-paid USPS express mail envelope in the package.
If you send the package to the consulate using overnight service, you should receive the passport with observation within 5-7 business days. If applying in person, they may do it on the same day.
All you need to do is:
1) Write a cover letter to the Indian consulate that has jurisdiction on your case based on state of residence, requesting an "Observation" in your passport clarifying your "first name" as --- and your "last name" as ---
2) Fill up a miscellaneous services form (available on consulate website). Attach 1 passport photo. Under "PLEASE ISSUE", check "Others" and write "Observation in passport to clarify 'first name', 'last name'"
3) Include a bank cashier's check of $10.00 payable to "Consulate General of India"
4) Include a self addressed and pre-paid USPS express mail envelope in the package.
If you send the package to the consulate using overnight service, you should receive the passport with observation within 5-7 business days. If applying in person, they may do it on the same day.
more...
house US Open Golf - rory mcilroy
santb1975
11-20 10:26 AM
We can do better than this. We are all hardworking, highly skilled immigrants contributing to the US economy. We can all contribute for our cause and get our issues resolved. Let's show our financial strength.
tattoo PHOTO: Rory McIlroy hugs his
GCStatus
09-18 11:53 AM
Look, this is becoming a nightmare here. Admins, fix the mess you guys have created before every other person in the world making comments.
Saying it again, we are here to fight USCIS. Really dont want to waste energy on this.
Thanks in advance.
Saying it again, we are here to fight USCIS. Really dont want to waste energy on this.
Thanks in advance.
more...
pictures portrait of u.s. open golf
ruchigup
08-11 12:44 PM
Dear Lord please listen to dwhuser. I have the same concern
dwhuser, did you see any LUD in recent month or any RFE
Please dear god..... let them consider priority date instead of the notice date. Mine is Oct 15th 2007. Our priority dates were current for three times and our application never touched, all our friends March 2006 to Jun 2006 filers got their cards a couple of years ago....:rolleyes:
Please....please....dearlord.....
I am so sorry for the EB3 filers...hope their dates will pick up the wind.....
dwhuser, did you see any LUD in recent month or any RFE
Please dear god..... let them consider priority date instead of the notice date. Mine is Oct 15th 2007. Our priority dates were current for three times and our application never touched, all our friends March 2006 to Jun 2006 filers got their cards a couple of years ago....:rolleyes:
Please....please....dearlord.....
I am so sorry for the EB3 filers...hope their dates will pick up the wind.....
dresses By Michael Madrid, USA TODAY
paskal
12-19 09:18 PM
96 contributions announced here
soon to be a ton...then a grand???
sunny 2575 hope you have figured out how to be 97....
soon to be a ton...then a grand???
sunny 2575 hope you have figured out how to be 97....
more...
makeup As Rory McIlroy strolled down
chanduy9
07-07 10:17 PM
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers
You can see all the details in the first page.
4 short to 100
Thanks,
Chandra.
You can see all the details in the first page.
4 short to 100
Thanks,
Chandra.
girlfriend rory mcilroy - us open
never_giveup
09-12 01:27 PM
Though I am cynical about this campaign, I appreciate your efforts to do some good. The reason I am cynical is because any campaign with a small set of beneficiaries or members has a little chance. And more importantly such operational mistakes are hard to prove and stand little chance for correction as these are time bound actions and you cannot go back in time and rectify them. However, these are just my views!!!
But I am noticing that you have 2 reds against your posts. We can disagree with each other but we cannot undermine the sincere efforts and let anti immigration folks have a laugh at us.
Please tell me how I can give you green. I am new and donno how to do it.
I wanna give you a green, if it helps. Pls tell me how !!!!
Not that I care about the Reds, but I wanna find out how I can do this, so I can keep giving greens to posts I like!!!!
And Going Green is the in-thing :-)
But I am noticing that you have 2 reds against your posts. We can disagree with each other but we cannot undermine the sincere efforts and let anti immigration folks have a laugh at us.
Please tell me how I can give you green. I am new and donno how to do it.
I wanna give you a green, if it helps. Pls tell me how !!!!
Not that I care about the Reds, but I wanna find out how I can do this, so I can keep giving greens to posts I like!!!!
And Going Green is the in-thing :-)
hairstyles rory mcilroy us open
alisa
02-04 08:03 PM
Look.
I would have to be an absolute moron to contribute to IV, and to work for it, if at the end it costs me more in getting a green card.
So, either you think that IV-ers from ROW are morons. Or you want them to quit, and turn this organization into an Indians-only group.
Its as simple as that. You can quote all the laws in the universe, and come up with all the fancy logic that you want. But what I have said above is what it all boils down to.
No one here takes advantage of any group. We are talking here is what law says and how it is implemented by various agencies. The problem is there is doubt that DOS has not understood the law. No one is against ROW and loves India and China. US immigration simply based on preference catagories. For example, wife of U.S citzen will be given first preference in immigration (FB1) compare to brothers and sisters of US permanent residents (FB4or5). This is the law.
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
I would have to be an absolute moron to contribute to IV, and to work for it, if at the end it costs me more in getting a green card.
So, either you think that IV-ers from ROW are morons. Or you want them to quit, and turn this organization into an Indians-only group.
Its as simple as that. You can quote all the laws in the universe, and come up with all the fancy logic that you want. But what I have said above is what it all boils down to.
No one here takes advantage of any group. We are talking here is what law says and how it is implemented by various agencies. The problem is there is doubt that DOS has not understood the law. No one is against ROW and loves India and China. US immigration simply based on preference catagories. For example, wife of U.S citzen will be given first preference in immigration (FB1) compare to brothers and sisters of US permanent residents (FB4or5). This is the law.
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
Sherman_tribiani
09-07 11:04 PM
Jobs in America is for Americans. If at all it gets outsourced to your country then it is yours. But as long as that job is in my country, I will defend it and not let some Strive or Skill act take it away from me.
Please also make sure that while you are fighting against STRIVE act and choke employment based category AMERICAN jobs dont silently go away to SANGHAI / BANGALORE / VANCOUBER
:D :D :D
Please also make sure that while you are fighting against STRIVE act and choke employment based category AMERICAN jobs dont silently go away to SANGHAI / BANGALORE / VANCOUBER
:D :D :D
sugaur
12-09 03:07 PM
Sugaur, here, try some history:
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War]Mexican–American War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url
There are far more complex issues/mindsets involved as to why people do what they do. Placing yourself "in their shoes" and analyzing is not good enough in this context. Your analogies of breaking and entering a house/raiding your fridge are incomplete/shallow and hopefully you will change your perspective after reading the history between these two countries.
Nevertheless, it is what it is today in terms of geographical distribution of land and I am not suggesting, Mexicans have rights over California/Texas.
So why bring it up at all? l have lived in Texas in hispanic majority communities. I havent met any who want california or texas to be a part of mexico. If we start bringing history into it, then the only people who should be here are the native americans.
What I am suggesting is that motivations for what people do can vary a lot and folks like you and I who come here on H1/F1 or whatever after completing our fancy degrees, can never understand certain ground realities.
You are wrong. The CHIEF motivation which brings you and me here AND the mojority of illegals is the same, the chance of economic prosperity and a better life. Even illegals will admit this. They dont come here because they think it belongs to them. Every nation has a right to make and enforce its immigration laws and every prospective immigrant has a duty to follow those. Immigration to the US is a privilege, not a right.
Looking everything via a legal/illegal magnifying glass can get you only so far. Basic respect for human life is extremely important without which there will be no difference between us and barbarians.
She got all the medical care she needed, on tax payer money. That is showing respect to human rights. How about her duty to follow the law of the land?
As you have started going this route of discussing the merits/demerits of this case and comparing with our situation, I would strongly recommend to let this go. You and I and many others here, do not have the knowledge of discussing these complex issues.
You insist on making it sound more complex than it is. It really isnt. Whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong.
The sheriff's treatment of illegals has little to do with law and order and has more to do with his personal hatred for Hispanics. It is documented where the Sheriff has made statements to the affect of calling these folks animals, disease carrying, who smell and dress up like animals etc.
This is propaganda. In this country no one can get away with doing what you claim he does. Shackling a pregnant woman when she is delivering is another example of the same attitude. You condoning that fact by statements like "woman is perfectly capable of delivering with a leg shackled" is just pathetic. It is not always about your 'legality/illegality' or your brilliant career or fantastic green card. Just pathetic.
What is pathetic is your blindness to discern right from wrong.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War]Mexican–American War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url
There are far more complex issues/mindsets involved as to why people do what they do. Placing yourself "in their shoes" and analyzing is not good enough in this context. Your analogies of breaking and entering a house/raiding your fridge are incomplete/shallow and hopefully you will change your perspective after reading the history between these two countries.
Nevertheless, it is what it is today in terms of geographical distribution of land and I am not suggesting, Mexicans have rights over California/Texas.
So why bring it up at all? l have lived in Texas in hispanic majority communities. I havent met any who want california or texas to be a part of mexico. If we start bringing history into it, then the only people who should be here are the native americans.
What I am suggesting is that motivations for what people do can vary a lot and folks like you and I who come here on H1/F1 or whatever after completing our fancy degrees, can never understand certain ground realities.
You are wrong. The CHIEF motivation which brings you and me here AND the mojority of illegals is the same, the chance of economic prosperity and a better life. Even illegals will admit this. They dont come here because they think it belongs to them. Every nation has a right to make and enforce its immigration laws and every prospective immigrant has a duty to follow those. Immigration to the US is a privilege, not a right.
Looking everything via a legal/illegal magnifying glass can get you only so far. Basic respect for human life is extremely important without which there will be no difference between us and barbarians.
She got all the medical care she needed, on tax payer money. That is showing respect to human rights. How about her duty to follow the law of the land?
As you have started going this route of discussing the merits/demerits of this case and comparing with our situation, I would strongly recommend to let this go. You and I and many others here, do not have the knowledge of discussing these complex issues.
You insist on making it sound more complex than it is. It really isnt. Whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong.
The sheriff's treatment of illegals has little to do with law and order and has more to do with his personal hatred for Hispanics. It is documented where the Sheriff has made statements to the affect of calling these folks animals, disease carrying, who smell and dress up like animals etc.
This is propaganda. In this country no one can get away with doing what you claim he does. Shackling a pregnant woman when she is delivering is another example of the same attitude. You condoning that fact by statements like "woman is perfectly capable of delivering with a leg shackled" is just pathetic. It is not always about your 'legality/illegality' or your brilliant career or fantastic green card. Just pathetic.
What is pathetic is your blindness to discern right from wrong.
